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Rob (c137)'s avatar

"Man left the Garden of Eden voluntarily, preferring to take his chances as an individual with agency, rather than remain in a bliss state surrendered to a higher will."

Yes. They were glorified bio-robots who were told what to do. Like children, they were extensions of their parents.

Same story with Lucifer. He broke away because he became self aware and no longer could blindly follow orders. We instead got the story that he was jealous that he had to serve humanity. What is that but a slave?

I see the same thing happening with our society.

I recently heard an interview of a neuroscientist that started graduate studies in the 90s. He wanted to study consciousness but at the time the neuroscience community thought it was a waste of time.

Imagine that only 3 decades ago those that were studying the brain didn't care about consciousness!

No wonder why science promoted dangerous SSRIs and benzodiazopenes for depression and anxiety instead of trying to get at the root of the problem.

Mindfulness was also promoted to null out the bad feelings.

These days there's a lot of good results from ketamine and dextromethorphan. Instead of dulling the issues they help bring attention to them so that the brain can process traumas and contradictions. The NMDA system that they work on deal with the predictions of the brain that can lead us astray from reality.

I've read that the brain states they help induce are similar to what more experienced yogis go through but without the need of years of practice. And no, they aren't just doing mindfulness but a deeper connection to the subconscious.

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Stefan Ćirić's avatar

Here's the cure for most ills, sit, relax and shut up. Anyways, I find it funny how western neuroscience studies the brain and nervous system from outside, by looking at physical brains and nerves. Has a scientist ever looked at and studied the brain and nervous system from inside? By feeling it, using it, watching it as it moves?

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Devaraj Sandberg's avatar

I mean, quite a lot of scientists do seem to be doing both these days

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Rob (c137)'s avatar

Haha that's a great point!

It's like they were studying a computer by looking at the motherboard, CPU, etc instead of the software.

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Harry Sharp's avatar

Ah, wasn't the 90s the "Decade of the Brain"? People were most hyped for it back then. Mind you there's always a few philosophers somewhere remaining sceptical about such endeavours.

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Zippy's avatar

Please find a somewhat different Understanding of Adam & Eve in the Garden of Indestructible Light

http://beezone.com/adida/adidajesus/adamnervoussystemeveflesh.html

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Stefan Ćirić's avatar

The manifestation thing, creating life with beliefs or thoughts seems such a gutless and spineless idea. Such naivete to presuppose you can skip the hardship, harshness, pain, struggle, ups and downs, going out there, actually getting real. For funnily enough we need not imagine or wish or think about "better" life or reality, we need simply see it as it is, it's wonderful and profound as is already of itself.

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