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Jennifer Arnold's avatar

I woke up this morning and listened to a review of Albert Camus and his philosophical approach to meaning . Yesterday I commented on someones post about George Orwells 1984 book , to remind themselves that 1984 was written in 1949 , and did not bear its formative fruit until 73 years later , 2022 . The book "My Antonia " about this very struggle you speak of , is a wondeful read , written by Willa Cather about immigrants from Hungary to the great plains , the juxtaposition of the violin inside of a sod hut will be a permanent picture in my minds eye . We are dreaming this all up -- supposedly the Amazon is collapsing , when I saw the news I thought it meant that my instant delivery was going to be delayed , then I realized that it was THE Amazon forest that the writer was talking about . I used to be all about balancing reality , now I am about creating the future - That said , I would love it if you Deveraj would talk a bit more about the need to engage in the struggle , to actually create memory and feel alive . / I came up with a theory via Bowlby where food sleep and caring guidance are necessary for creating memories in a child . I theorized that the biological system if confronted with an aggressor , will forego its personality and appropriate the personality of the aggressor , so as to better be able to deal with it . Like, fighting Mike Tyson in the ring , you are going to think like Tyson , to best deal with Tyson , but this will not be a memory because the biology is busy being Tyson -esque , acting so to speak , and so cannot structure images in the now . The ability to create a new , comes from being safe , and then moving into the new idea - think ballroom dancing , which allows memories to format and be built on . Living at the street level fighting off junkies does not sound like ballroom dancing , much , but actually it is a level where the body may not feel safe , but it feels necessary . Alive . Real . Creative . Thus , the actual personality ( spirit ) is engaged and memories are formed . Keeping it physical seems to be mandatory for a sense of journey . - Jen

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Devaraj Sandberg's avatar

My own position is that trying to "change the world" does not really work. This is because of the extremely high tendency in the human psyche to project personal issues onto the world and experience it as split and needing fixing. This is a learned ego-mediated strategy to avoid self-confrontation on a deep emotional level and in my experience it is pretty much ubiquitous.

When I was younger, I was involved in political protesting, then I did a lot of therapy. I'd be happy to state that at least 95% of protestors are absolutely projecting their own stuff and those who are most fervent are almost certainly doing it the most.

What's important is to be in the world, allow the triggering and investigate ourselves. That doesn't mean you can't take a position, far from it. But you have to be aware of the inner dynamic.

I think it would be great to ban politics personally! That would force us to self-confront more.

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Jennifer Arnold's avatar

Right - the mandibles is the need to crunch and consume - like the mandible body part - maybe if we butchered our own meat and pulled it off the bone with our own teeth we would need to cut down all the trees - and grind them up in chippers - (sorry vegans for the imagery ) I know that my physical instinctive need to mother gets interspersed in all my reality -like one of those Labrador’s that adopts raccoons - I guess the more aware we are of our savage baseline feelings the better one can see how that bleeds through the fabric of life .

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